Same Same, But Different
March 14, 2008
Early in the morning, we hopped off the train in Danang. We headed south and passed by a lovely stretch of beach on the way to Hoi An. I fell asleep on the bus and woke up when we arrived at our hotel. I rested some more and then after breakfast, I decided to see what Hoi An was all about. A few doors down from our hotel, I bumped into The Canadians at a tailor shop. They were well on their way to creating entire new wardrobes. I hung out with them as they made decisions on skirts and dresses but I wasn't quite ready to decide on getting something made.
One of them excitedly told me that they had seen a restaurant called, "Same Same, Not Different" in Hoi An. It was just a day or two before that she had pointed out to me the South East Asian habit of saying "same same". It's used in many different situations, but you'll most likely hear it when a vendor is trying to sell you something similar to something else. For example, if you are looking at a scarf and thinking about whether or not you should buy it, the vendor might show you one of the same design but in a different color and say, "same same." Depending on the situation, it might be followed by "not different" "but different" or "but better".
When they finished up at that store, we walked some more and around every corner there was a lot of same same. It was one tailor shop after another with a shoemaker mixed in every so often. They ordered more items but I was still unsure so I held off. They were both leaving in Hanoi and getting closer to the end of their trip, so they weren't worried about acquiring a bunch of stuff. We had lunch at "Same Same, Not Different". Then I gave in to the tailors by ordering a summer dress, a red shirt in Asian fabric, and a pair of green linen pants to replace the green pants I accidentally left in Siem Reap. After they took my measurements and we agreed on times for me to come back for fittings, I wandered around Hoi An.
Hoi An is a wonderfully walkable city. It's compact and there is less traffic which makes it much easier to cross the street. In some sections, motorcycles aren't allowed. I walked towards one end of town, and when it seemed like there was nothing else to see, I walked back the other direction. I used my map to find the river and the Japanese Covered Bridge. Hoi An is a UNESCO World Heritage Site and touristy, but in an artsy way I preferred to the resorty touristiness of Nha Trang. Everywhere you look there is creativity and crumbling beauty. There is always something to smile at whether it's the silk lanterns everywhere, carefully arranged crafts for sale or just the beautiful simplicity of life.
I went back to for my fittings. I don't know what I was thinking when I ordered three items from three different places. It would've made more sense to order them from the same place. At one shop, the woman working sort of dismissed me when I showed her places where my dress wasn't fitting properly or tried to explain what I had originally asked for. The other two tailor shops were great, they gave me advice and suggested improvements. I met up with the Canadians and we had dinner at "Same Same, But Better". Seriously. I went with them to pick up some of their things. One of them had ordered a winter coat which was already finished and had turned out beautifully.
Later, I got in touch with our guide, Cat, who was hanging out with the rest of the group. She told me where they were and gave me directions. I walked down to meet them and everyone was leaving. Cat stayed behind though, and we were joined by one of her tour guide friends whose group was passing through Hoi An at the same time. They were telling me the pros and cons of being a tour guide. Pro: incessant travel. Con: incessant travel. He was from Peru and started as a guide in South America. When he wanted a change of scenery, he transferred to South East Asia. He was starting to feel like he was ready to "settle down" and was thinking about moving to Indonesia to become a surfer.
One of them excitedly told me that they had seen a restaurant called, "Same Same, Not Different" in Hoi An. It was just a day or two before that she had pointed out to me the South East Asian habit of saying "same same". It's used in many different situations, but you'll most likely hear it when a vendor is trying to sell you something similar to something else. For example, if you are looking at a scarf and thinking about whether or not you should buy it, the vendor might show you one of the same design but in a different color and say, "same same." Depending on the situation, it might be followed by "not different" "but different" or "but better".
When they finished up at that store, we walked some more and around every corner there was a lot of same same. It was one tailor shop after another with a shoemaker mixed in every so often. They ordered more items but I was still unsure so I held off. They were both leaving in Hanoi and getting closer to the end of their trip, so they weren't worried about acquiring a bunch of stuff. We had lunch at "Same Same, Not Different". Then I gave in to the tailors by ordering a summer dress, a red shirt in Asian fabric, and a pair of green linen pants to replace the green pants I accidentally left in Siem Reap. After they took my measurements and we agreed on times for me to come back for fittings, I wandered around Hoi An.
Hoi An is a wonderfully walkable city. It's compact and there is less traffic which makes it much easier to cross the street. In some sections, motorcycles aren't allowed. I walked towards one end of town, and when it seemed like there was nothing else to see, I walked back the other direction. I used my map to find the river and the Japanese Covered Bridge. Hoi An is a UNESCO World Heritage Site and touristy, but in an artsy way I preferred to the resorty touristiness of Nha Trang. Everywhere you look there is creativity and crumbling beauty. There is always something to smile at whether it's the silk lanterns everywhere, carefully arranged crafts for sale or just the beautiful simplicity of life.
I went back to for my fittings. I don't know what I was thinking when I ordered three items from three different places. It would've made more sense to order them from the same place. At one shop, the woman working sort of dismissed me when I showed her places where my dress wasn't fitting properly or tried to explain what I had originally asked for. The other two tailor shops were great, they gave me advice and suggested improvements. I met up with the Canadians and we had dinner at "Same Same, But Better". Seriously. I went with them to pick up some of their things. One of them had ordered a winter coat which was already finished and had turned out beautifully.
Later, I got in touch with our guide, Cat, who was hanging out with the rest of the group. She told me where they were and gave me directions. I walked down to meet them and everyone was leaving. Cat stayed behind though, and we were joined by one of her tour guide friends whose group was passing through Hoi An at the same time. They were telling me the pros and cons of being a tour guide. Pro: incessant travel. Con: incessant travel. He was from Peru and started as a guide in South America. When he wanted a change of scenery, he transferred to South East Asia. He was starting to feel like he was ready to "settle down" and was thinking about moving to Indonesia to become a surfer.
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Tips for getting great custom clothing
In Hoi An, there is an abundance of tailor shops. For a clothing lover like me, the idea of all of these places where I could get custom made clothing was both exciting and overwhelming. At first glance, many of these shops looked the same, but I quickly learned that there are good shops and bad shops, and it's not quite that easy to get what you want. There are some shops that are clearly higher end, and that is reflected in the prices they charge and the quality of the clothing. But there are some shops where you can get decently made clothing for a decent price. Even if you don't plan on having anything made in Hoi An, once you get there, the temptation will likely be to great to resist. So be prepared. Here are a few things I learned:
BEFORE YOU GO
Have an idea of what you want to have made beforehand. You can literally have any type of clothing made- dresses, pants, winter coats, suits, etc. Clip or print pictures of clothing you like and bring them with you. When there is a language barrier, having a visual to show the tailor gets you a lot further than trying to orally explain what you want.
You can also bring fabric with you if you have extra space in your luggage for it. There are a decent amount of fabrics at the stores, but after awhile you'll notice most shops have basically the same selection.
KNOW WHAT LOOKS GOOD ON YOU
Have realistic expectations about how things will look on you. Chances are, the clothes won't look the same on you as they do on a model or on a mannequin. Knowing this will help you make better choices on what to order and you'll be more likely to walk away with something that really looks like it was made for you.
PICKING THE RIGHT SHOP
Characteristics of a good shop:
-Interesting and well made clothing on display in front
-Clean and uncluttered
-A relaxed environment
-A good amount of customers (who look happy!)
-Has clothing catalogs you can browse through for ideas
-Pleasant and honest staff who listens to what you want and gives good advice on fit, colors, and patterns
-Reasonable prices, willing to negotiate
Characteristics of a bad shop:
-Cluttered, disorganized, and dusty
-Pushy, dishonest staff (you will know)
-Lack of customers
GETTING THE RIGHT FIT
Make sure you are spending enough time in Hoi An to have plenty of fittings and still have enough time to see the town. It's easy to get caught up in the tailoring and miss out on the beautiful town of Hoi An. In some cases, the clothes will fit perfectly right away, but in most cases you may need to have a few fittings before your clothes fit well. Don't be afraid to tell the staff if you feel like something needs to be altered. If it's a good shop, they will probably notice it anyway and be very willing to fix it!
RECOMMENDATIONS
Huong Lan II
Address: 669 Hai Ba Trung Street
Phone: 84.510. 864 457
Hong Nhat
Address: 104 Ba Trieu
Phone: 0510.863 946
- These two shops had excellent customer service and made good clothes for a good price.
BEFORE YOU GO
Have an idea of what you want to have made beforehand. You can literally have any type of clothing made- dresses, pants, winter coats, suits, etc. Clip or print pictures of clothing you like and bring them with you. When there is a language barrier, having a visual to show the tailor gets you a lot further than trying to orally explain what you want.
You can also bring fabric with you if you have extra space in your luggage for it. There are a decent amount of fabrics at the stores, but after awhile you'll notice most shops have basically the same selection.
KNOW WHAT LOOKS GOOD ON YOU
Have realistic expectations about how things will look on you. Chances are, the clothes won't look the same on you as they do on a model or on a mannequin. Knowing this will help you make better choices on what to order and you'll be more likely to walk away with something that really looks like it was made for you.
PICKING THE RIGHT SHOP
Characteristics of a good shop:
-Interesting and well made clothing on display in front
-Clean and uncluttered
-A relaxed environment
-A good amount of customers (who look happy!)
-Has clothing catalogs you can browse through for ideas
-Pleasant and honest staff who listens to what you want and gives good advice on fit, colors, and patterns
-Reasonable prices, willing to negotiate
Characteristics of a bad shop:
-Cluttered, disorganized, and dusty
-Pushy, dishonest staff (you will know)
-Lack of customers
GETTING THE RIGHT FIT
Make sure you are spending enough time in Hoi An to have plenty of fittings and still have enough time to see the town. It's easy to get caught up in the tailoring and miss out on the beautiful town of Hoi An. In some cases, the clothes will fit perfectly right away, but in most cases you may need to have a few fittings before your clothes fit well. Don't be afraid to tell the staff if you feel like something needs to be altered. If it's a good shop, they will probably notice it anyway and be very willing to fix it!
RECOMMENDATIONS
Huong Lan II
Address: 669 Hai Ba Trung Street
Phone: 84.510. 864 457
Hong Nhat
Address: 104 Ba Trieu
Phone: 0510.863 946
- These two shops had excellent customer service and made good clothes for a good price.











