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<p><a href="http://www.travbuddy.com/Patan-travel-guide-1138402">Patan, Nepal></a>, Nov 14, 2007</p>
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<P>Patan: The city roofs of gold is the capital of religion and crafts Buddhist . <BR>The city is located south of Kathmandu, on a high plateau which overlooks the course of the Bagmati. It bears the name of a town with thousands of golden roofs, people of the valley call Lalita Pura, the Belle City. Patan is the most ancient Buddhist world. </P></FONT></p>
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<title>Where is the money?</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 11:45:45 PST</pubDate>
<description>Oct.13 07
Went to Patan this morning. It wasn&apos;t in our plan but since we&apos;re still&amp;nbsp;here,&amp;nbsp;Kathmandu.&amp;nbsp;But we&amp;nbsp;should make a move a&amp;hellip;</description>
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<p><a href="http://www.travbuddy.com/Patan-travel-guide-1138402">Patan, Nepal></a>, Oct 13, 2007</p>
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<P align=justify><STRONG><U>Oct.13 07</U></STRONG></P>
<P align=justify><BR>Went to <STRONG>Patan</STRONG> this morning. It wasn't in our plan but since we're still&nbsp;here,&nbsp;Kathmandu.&nbsp;But we&nbsp;should make a move at least somewhere. As I said, both of us were too lazy. Each day we got a plan then we can't work it out. Always noticed that we were still in Kathmandu .. again. And often said we'll leave tomorrow but I remembered&nbsp;we said "tomorrow" for two weeks! </P>
<P align=justify>Then we went to Patan,&nbsp;an Art and craft Area. Another name is <STRONG>Lalitpur</STRONG> which means beautiful city or art city. This city has old temples about 50 temples and herritage stupas about 8,000! Also&nbsp;is known as <STRONG>Cultural Herritage</STRONG> by UNESCO. In history, they said King of Tibet and China invited&nbsp;the architectures from Patan to build in the temples there. The <STRONG>Patan Durbar Square</STRONG>&nbsp;is also more impressive than other Durbar Squares with the tradional style buildings. Also the houses, restaurants or cafes because they were&nbsp;the palace area before. (I try to imagine if it's like Siam Square in Bangkok? :D because Nepalis teenagers meet up there as a center point) .&nbsp;&nbsp; </P>
<P align=justify>We were hungry so <STRONG>Momo </STRONG>could fill our stomachs, they said Momo is&nbsp;<STRONG>Tibetian food</STRONG> but there has a lot of Momo&nbsp;restaurants here as it is the main course of Nepali. Local Momo dish was nice and haha .. cheap! It's like Dimsum, have diferrent ways to cook Momo ; to steam or to fried, both are yummy! :) But the taste doesn't depends on MOMO only but the sauce are different in each restaurant so&nbsp;if you are lucky, you will&nbsp;taste the real!&nbsp;</P>
<P align=justify>We went back to <STRONG>Thamel </STRONG>and walked around to feel night life in Nepal. Thamel's always vigorous. Night life, night light. Same as the day before, a young man stopped by and asked Ale .. "do you want to smoke something more stronger than cigarette?" haha ... He said no but the&nbsp;young man&nbsp;still stalked us!!</P>
<P align=justify>That's why tonight we decided to go out of Kathmandu. It's&nbsp;time to make a move.&nbsp;We walked in/walk out&nbsp; of many travel agencies to find the right trekking trip for us and we got one.</P>
<P align=justify>The travel agency that we chose was nice, I thought.&nbsp;She explained us so clear and we got the cheap price for 8 days trekking in Langtang mountain. I don't know why i chose <STRONG>Langtang</STRONG>. Why not Annapurna or Everest? We don't have enough time to do the trek&nbsp;to Everest&nbsp;(it takes about 24 days)&nbsp;because we wanted to go back to India again and for Annapurna, i don't know. Actually it would be much more beautiful than Langtang. People said they went to the Everest and Annapurna first, and keep Langtang for the last but we both agreed to do the divert.</P>
<P align=justify><STRONG>Langtang National Park</STRONG> is directly accessible by road from Kathmandu. It's surrounded by major Himalayan peaks. Short treks of easy stages which can be manage by a family or by people who are not so fit or not so young. That's what I heard. </P>
<P align=justify>Tomorrow we will leave!! So quick! We we don't move, we don't move but when we wanted to move, we moved now! OOOh.</P>
<P align=justify>A young girl but seemed she got a&nbsp;lot of experience with trekking bussiness&nbsp;introduced us&nbsp;our guide. She let us talk to him, if we are not ok with him, she'll change the new guide for us. His name is <STRONG>Ratna</STRONG>. Ratna is an old guy, same age as my Dad&nbsp;and look more older.&nbsp;I was not sure if he could lead us to trek but ok, he's nice and&nbsp;I saw a sadness in&nbsp;his eyes. If we denied&nbsp;him, how big of disappointed he would&nbsp;be?!! &nbsp;</P>
<P align=justify>I knew&nbsp;later that no one wanted him to be a guide because he is too old and can't speak english well. But i said i'd go! Ale thought the same. So we said bye and we headed back to the hotel to pack our stuff coz will meet up tomorrow at 6.30am. Very early!!! </P>
<P align=justify>This morning befor we went out, two hotel maids came to clean&nbsp;the room.&nbsp;The first one&nbsp;smiled to us but another one just gave us a strange look. I felt that but .. don't wanna keep&nbsp;in mind. So we&nbsp;gave&nbsp;them the key and went out.&nbsp;&nbsp;</P>
<P align=justify>3&nbsp;minutes&nbsp;after we're out of the hotel&nbsp;Ale told me he forgot his money in another trousers.&nbsp; "So go back to take it." I said. But&nbsp;he said "No no don't worry, i got an ATM." Me&nbsp;"Are you sure?&nbsp;We can walk back now.&nbsp;How much?" &nbsp;He say "Not much, don't worry."&nbsp; Ok .. then we went to Patan and don't think about the money at all.</P>
<P align=justify>Tonight, after we arrived Mustang Hotel. Ale checked his&nbsp;trousers and said&nbsp; "New, my money is gone".. I asked him what money. (I totally forgot).&nbsp;He said "The money i told you that I forgot in another trousers"!! </P>
<P align=justify>What!!!</P>
<P align=justify>First thought and second and last thought, we thought the same that the hotel maids have been involve with it. But which one?&nbsp;Because two of them came to our room.&nbsp;I asked him how much. He said "4000 rupees"!! </P>
<P align=justify>Then Ale&nbsp;went to talk to the manager but no one was there, so we left the message. And we had to postpone the trek to go on the next day instead. We&nbsp;had to know 'where is Ale's money?' ... </P>
<P align=justify>And I couldn't believe that no one takes any responsibility. They don't care. They said they asked the maids but the maids said they don't know! </P>
<P align=justify>So ...who???!</P>
<P align=justify>But we were sure that they did because no one else could do it. I loved this hotel since i stepped in. People were nice. The manager, receptionist, the waiter ... everyone but just some people who care just a few money! The money was in the pocket, how could they tried to find something inside the pocket. If Ale left his money on the table, it would make more sense that they were&nbsp;tempting&nbsp;by money but this situation, the money was in the pocket, inside the trousers so they meant to steal it!!!&nbsp; </P>
<P align=justify>We were upset, Ale was more, it's his money. We couldn't catch anyone and we don't really know who was the one who took it. We didn't tell the police because we knows that they couldn't catch the theif. I tried to tell him to think&nbsp; ...&nbsp;just think that ...it's not belong to him ... and they (someone who took it) were poor more than us (even we are too) but .. just forgive. Ale tried to think the same but couldn't. I understood&nbsp;because it's his money even it's not much but even just two rupees were steal, it's bad anyway. It shouldn't happen here.&nbsp; </P>
<P align=justify>Me too ... even i told him to forgive but i was disappointed too. I remembered how one of the maid looked at us when we got out of the room, it was strange and can't be trust. And i thought it was her. </P>
<P align=justify>At the end, the hotel did nothing. But they still treated us good as nothing happened. Even to take resposibility by discount or free breakfast (haha i hoped) but no. So it's ok. They said there had the same situation before with another customer but the lady was found out that her money wasn't stealed but she forgot it in&nbsp;her bag. They asked Ale did you forgot it somewhere? ... No more angriness but much more disappointed. Ok if you, hotel, don't want to take care of it so please shut up. </P>
<P align=justify>Bye bye Mustang, you gave us&nbsp; a good lesson. </P>
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<title>Patan, the Beautiful City</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:41:41 PST</pubDate>
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<p><a href="http://www.travbuddy.com/Patan-travel-guide-1138402">Patan, Nepal></a>, May 30, 2007</p>
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<p><b><i><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">5/30/07 <br></span></i></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 153);">New Videos Uploaded </span>- Scroll to the bottom to see a couple of videos that Cindy made of the incredible Golden Temple in Patan (old capital of Nepal).&nbsp; <br></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">Since we haven’t done all that much in <i>Kathmandu, </i>we figured we would wake up early and grab a taxi to <i>Patan, </i>reportedly the oldest city in Nepal and also known as <i>Lalitpur,</i> both names being a shortened version of the Sanskrit name <i>Lalitpattan </i>or the “Beautiful City”. Emperor Ashokha was said to have visited the city around 250 BC when he erected four large <i>stupas</i> marking the four corners of the city. Some of the temples and palaces were built as early as the fifth century, but many were built by King Shiva Malla of <st1:place w:st="on"><i>Kathmandu</i></st1:place><i> </i>who defeated <i>Patan</i> and unified the valley in 1597. <o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">The ride there was uneventful until we reached the outskirts of <i>Patan</i> where there was a large sewage/drainage project underway (we are not sure if it was planned or emergency) that caused us to have to bail out of the taxi and walk the last several blocks through ripped up streets with open sewage. Oh boy! And we haven’t even had breakfast yet… <o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">We did another walking tour from one of the guide books that started in <i>Patan’s Durbar Square </i>(remember <i>Durbar</i> means palace and many cities in Nepal have this square) where the old woman in the orange sari was selling flowers to be given as offerings at the many temples in the large courtyard. The courtyard of <st1:street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on"><i>Durbar Square</i></st1:address></st1:street> is jam packed with temples, statues and <i>stupas </i>and the small streets and alleyways are filled with great sites as well. You can see several shots of the square (one towards the beginning of the pictures today and one towards the end) and the many multi-roofed temples in the courtyard in some of the uploaded pictures here. The picture of the large column with King Malla atop it faces the palace and it is rumored that, as long as the bird standing on top of the head of the cobra protecting the King remains perched there, the King may one day return. One of the palace windows and doors remains open, awaiting his return (reportedly along with a large hookah for him to smoke!). Also, in the event that the bird ever flies off, supposedly the giant stone elephants you see in front of the temple will come to life and walk across the street for a quick drink in the <i>Manga Hiti</i> well across the street. You can see the mythical <i>Makara</i> double headed crocodile water spout in the <i>Manga Hiti</i> a few pictures later. Also, we loved the little guy in the picture of the <i>Garuda </i>statue holding his trident defiantly in the air from the top of the Palace. We aren’t sure what his meaning is but we really liked him J .<o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">After wandering around the square a bit and turning down offers of “tour guides” who’s English was less than spectacular we started off on the path of our tour, this time in reverse since the end of the tour actually started in the square. This does make things a little more difficult for the geographically challenged, but we persevered and managed to find our way. After wandering down the alleyways past some small temples, we made it to the famous <i>Kumbeshwar</i> temple which is one of only three, five story temples in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Nepal</st1:place></st1:country-region>. It is really old (1392) and supposed to be very sacred. We found it covered in pigeon crap and wandering goats and not so special (and you already know how Cindy feels about pigeons…)<o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">A bit further through the alleys after visiting some <i>Bahal</i> courtyards, we came to the <i>Kwa Bahal </i>or “Golden Temple” which is on a small street hidden behind a relatively non-descript entry way. Inside it is fantastically beautiful with an inner courtyard and small golden temple flanked by prayer wheels, two giant elephant statues and monkey statues in each corner in addition to the main, three tiered temple with a silver façade. You can see from some of the pictures how richly detailed and incredible all of the artwork is, most of it covered in gold, silver or both. The small temple in the center is also surrounded by large temple lions and literally covered in superb small metal castings of various gods. There is a small monastery upstairs as well. Legend has it that the turtles that wander around the premises are good luck and the older people (like the man in the shot with the prayer wheels) feed them. Cindy has a video of this but we will have to upload it when we have bandwidth. For such a small little temple, we spent quite a bit of time here. The rest of the tour worked its way through more small streets and past nice <i>Bahals</i> with small <i>stupas</i> eventually ending up at the <i>Pim Bahal Pokhari</i> which is supposed to be a lake or pond but, perhaps due to the drought or overuse of water (<i>Kathmandu </i>is critically short on fresh water, mostly due to tourism) the pond was merely a muck filled brick cavern (we did snap a shot of a small pedal boat stuck in the mud in the middle but that is only for those who “almost own a mega-yacht” as a certain two of our friends… <o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">We decided to visit the museum in one of the palace buildings as it has recently been renovated by a joint Austrian/Nepali project and is really nicely done. Often, when you go into museums in this part of the world, the displays are ill-lit and the descriptions, if any exist, not great. This place was a beautifully redone <i>Newari </i>palace that was really great and had good displays, especially in regards to how the lost wax method of casting sculptures is used. We were virtually the only people in the museum (not counting the mostly sleeping guards in each room) and we strolled around at leisure, resting in the second story with great views of the courtyards of <st1:street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on"><i>Durbar Square</i></st1:address></st1:street><i>. </i>The shots of the Buddha head and the four cool little “ethnic” sculptures were particular favorites. We walked downstairs and walked around the very pretty garden and restaurant where we ran into three Dutch kids who were trying to decide whether to go into the museum or not (the entry fee is fairly steep for here, 250 Rupees or about $6). The man who took our tickets when entering the museum came over and asked if we would tell them that the museum was worthwhile (which we did) as he is very proud of the restoration and the restaurant. They thanked us and then we wandered around the garden which was very pretty (in addition to being filled with pot plants). We had lunch overlooking <st1:street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on"><i>Durbar Square</i></st1:address></st1:street> and tried a new beer, Gorkha Beer, which wasn’t bad but had a little bit of a weird flavor. If you visit <i>Encinitas</i> (<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on">San Diego</st1:city>, <st1:state w:st="on">CA</st1:state></st1:place>) then ask Brad to see the shot we took specially for him of the beer with the courtyard in the background…<o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">We decided to walk part of the way back to <st1:place w:st="on"><i>Kathmandu</i></st1:place> to see one of the four Ashokha <i>stupas </i>before crossing the <i>Bagamati River</i> where we found a cab that would take us back to our hotel. We had earlier made plans to meet a friend of Karma (from our trek in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Sikkim</st1:place></st1:country-region>) who is Nepali and a travel agent to hand off a CD that I burned for Karma. We relaxed for a bit at the hotel and then walked over to the <i>Nirvana Hotel</i> (which I don’t believe is owned or operated by Courtney Love, Dave Groll or Krist Novacik…) and met Karma’s friend Razzu.<o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">Razzu is as nice a guy as Karma and we ended up having beers and appetizers in the pretty garden courtyard of the hotel before he insisted on treating us to dinner at a Thai place in <i>Thamel. </i>Razzu gave us several ideas about itineraries in <st1:country-region w:st="on">Nepal</st1:country-region> as well as bringing up the subject of going to <st1:country-region w:st="on">Tibet</st1:country-region> which of course is always intriguing, even though we are both somewhat ambivalent about supporting the Chinese via tourism in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Tibet</st1:country-region></st1:place>. Razzu is a native Tibetan but has lived here since he was quite young when his parents fled after the Chinese invaded (“liberated” in their lingo) in 1959. Actually his story is quite interesting. He and Karma go back to school days in <i>Kalimpong </i><st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">India</st1:place></st1:country-region> and have maintained a friendship since then. His dad was a trader, working the Nepali-Tibetan trade route prior to the Chinese invasion and, it ends up, had a Nepalese wife and a Tibetan wife (Razzu’s mom). Neither knew of the other until everything fell apart with the invasion and his dad moved his second family to <st1:place w:st="on"><i>Kathmandu</i></st1:place><i>. </i>You can only imagine the fireworks that caused. Anyway, we immediately liked him and were comfortable talking with him and will now have to think about <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Tibet</st1:place></st1:country-region> as a possible journey. We asked Razzu if he had any other people heading to <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><i>Lhasa</i></st1:place></st1:city> and he said he didn’t personally, but would check with some of his peers and get back to us. As far as a Nepal itinerary, we will definitely go to <i>Pokahara </i>and probably <i>Bandipur </i>and are considering going to the <i>Royal Chitiwan Reserve </i>which is a nature park in southern Nepal (but kind of hot right now). Nothing like last minute planning…<o:p></o:p></span></p>  <p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">On a funny note, we mentioned that someone at the hotel had said that June first (which is also the sixth anniversary of the <st1:place w:st="on"><i>Kathmandu</i></st1:place><i> </i>massacre of the Royal Family) is full moon and there would be big celebrations at <i>Bodhnath</i>, another of the local temples we are planning on visiting. Razzu said “whoever told you that must be Hindu because full moon celebration at <i>Bodhnath </i>is tomorrow night”. Guess we will change plans…</span></p>
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